They are the same spec but Howell licensed some manufacturing to Taylor some time ago. Maybe I wasn't clear in what I was trying to say.I have both Taylors' and Howell. I have spent years reading my books and I have a ton of them and you are right about the pressure and velocity situation, I get it. Spend a few days looking at the handgun reloading section in your favorite manual, and youll quickly see how identical chamber pressures can have drastic differences in velocity.Oh maybe I didn't make it clear sorry, i'm not using Colt charges in he 45 S&W I have separate Schofield data to use. He may refer to what is called a "nominal" velocity range, but VELOCITY has NOTHING to do with chamber pressure. Kirst likes to use confusing advertising on what is "safe" for his products. 357 magnum powder charge?"Īnything in a 45 schofield case will be fine pressure wise. Pressure will be higher then the schofield was meant for.Įssiantially its the "should I load 158 grain bullets in 38 special cases using. THATS the first issue I have with what you are doing, using a 45 colt powder charge in a schofield case is GOING TO CAUSE TRAUBLE. I'm in the process of trimming my 100 Schofield cses I notice you said you have a conversion for a Dragoon, nice, wonder if they make one for a Cimmeron Whitneyville Dragoon, I have one of those. Maybe i'm over thinking this, if this gun was a Ruger or Thompson or something stronger than my Rem NMA 1858 with a conversion cylinder I wouldn't have any problems but this whole strength deal with these handguns has me very cautious. On a side note Lymans cast book list the start load for the 200gn 452460 " speeding " along at 900+ fps and that's a start but I want around 850fps, this is confusing the heck outa me and I have been casting and loading for a long time. I figured if I stay under max lenghth it shouldn't be much of a problem with around 5.5 gns of RD with the 230 boolit. I am thinking of starting with reddot but then I changed my mind and went with TrailBoss but now i'm leaning towards 700x. I am spoiled for choice I quess when it comes to powder choice because I have most of the " popular " ones, RD, Unique, BE, 700x, W231, TB, ect. You are quite right about the Lyman books, there is differences betwix editions. I gave my BIL my Lee book when he started to reload maybe I should have kept it ,Ha !!!!. Thanks for the reply Curator, I have most of the older Ideal /Lyman books and the newer cast boolit books also some Sierra and Hornady's. 45 Colt brass from my Kirst converted 1848 Army revolver (Dragoon) and pressures low enough that the cases don't effectively seal the chambers unless the (Starline) brass has been recently annealed. I get (about) 730-750 fps using the Lee 451/230 RN bullet seated to 1.60" with 6.5 grains of Unique in. Start on the light side and gradually work up to your intended target. Another option is getting a chronograph and check the velocity of your loads. The Lyman books are confusing and inaccurate in my opinion. It is one of the best in that it gives correct bullet seating information along with starting and maximum loads.
You will probably be OK with "close to" maximum overall length, but you did not specify what powder and charge weight you are using. Lucky that you know how important that information is before you make up a bunch of loads.
Some loading books don't give the Cartridge overall length along with powder charge and bullet design/weight.
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